B-Theory of time FAILS
[[B-Theory of time]]
First
of all, what do we mean when we talk about the B-Theory of time? The B-Theory
of time is defined as, “A view of time according to which all events (past,
present, and future) are equally real and temporal becoming is merely a
subjective feature of consciousness. The number of past events in a
beginningless universe on such a view would be obviously actually infinite,
since it would be akin to a spatial array of items.” This is much different
than the A-Theory of time. On the A-Theory of tie there is a real difference
between past, present, and future. The present exists, but the future is
unreal, it is just potentiality, and the past has faded away and no longer
exists. On the A-Theory of time Temporal becoming is a real and objective
feature of the world. That is to say, things actually come into existence and
then go out of existence. This is the common sense view of time that virtually
everyone hold to. In contrast, The B-Theory of time says there really isn’t any
difference in the past, present, and future. It suggests that the past,
present, and future are all equally real. Your eating breakfast tomorrow, your
future marriage, your death, etc are just as real as what is happening right
now and what happened in the past. Similarly, the things that happened in the
past are still real and never go out of existence/never vanish into non-being.
So the difference between past, present, and future on the B-Theory of time is
that it’s just an illusion. It’s an illusion of human consciousness. For us
today is the present, but for the people living in 2099, 2099 is the present
and we are in the past. But on the B-Theory of time neither is right or wrong,
they are just an illusion. So again on the B-Theory of time there is no
temporal becoming, things don’t come into being and then go out of being, they
just all exist.
(Dr. Craig
- https://www.reasonablefaith.org/writings/question-answer/past-and-future-in-the-kalam-cosmological-argument#ixzz29ojSIAwV
Now,
as it pertains to ''The Elliott Argument,'' we welcome proponents
of both the ''A-theory of time'' and the ''B-theory of time.” First let us
point out that B-Theory of time, ''static time'', or “Block Universe Theory”
simply falls under the definition of 'STE or SCPN depending on how you
want to break it down. How? Because even though tenseless, in a B-Theory
of time, space exists eternally in the past without true beginning. It
is key to remember here is that the definition of STE includes both
time without space as well as space without time. "On a
classical view of B-theory of time, the universe never truly comes into being
at all (has no true beginning). The whole four-dimensional space-time
manifold just exists tenselessly. Although the space-time manifold is
intrinsically temporal (in that one of its four-dimensions is time), it is
still claimed to be timeless, in that it does not exist in an embedding
hyper-time, but rather exists tenselessly. Meaning it neither comes into being
or goes out of being. The four-dimensional space-time manifold is this latter
sense eternal." (Naturalism: A Critical Analysis (200) pp 232-3 ~ William
Lane Craig). But if your opponent wants to say that the entire system came from
pure nothingness at some point (that would of course be SCPN). And if your
opponent wants to push the question back and say the entire system was the
product of something else causing it to exist, then you just play the “where
did that come from” game until they will ultimately be forced to admit STE or
SCPN.
Before
we begin to cut into this, let’s talk about illusions and take some cues from
the many experiences we know to be illusory. If I hold out my outstretched
fingers nearly touching in front of my face, I will see the illusion that has amused
children since the beginning of humanity. There, floating in space right in
front of my face, is a finger sausage that appears to be connected to nothing.
There is an enormous amount of literature devoted to much more elaborate
illusions than this one. Here is one of the more remarkable ones. When one
glances at a certain type of pattern, they see it as animated. It appears to be
a seething, moving, boiling surface. But this is simply an illusion. There is
no motion, no movement, no boiling surface at all. The image is entirely
static. By two means, we convince ourselves that both of these are
illusions. First, we note that viewing the illusion slightly differently, it
can be eradicated. Merely shutting one eye leads to the sausage disappearing.
Or in the case of the anomalous motion illusion, we can eradicate the motion in
any smaller part of the image by merely covering the rest. Second, we can often
identify the mechanism through which the illusion arises. In the case of the
finger sausage, it results directly from an improper fusion of the images
received by each one of our eyes. No doubt similar explication of the anomalous
motion illusion is possible in terms of vagaries of our visual perception. It
is striking, for example, that the illusion is eradicated merely by fixing
one's gaze rigidly on just one spot of the image. The illusion seems to require
both the use of peripheral vision and the motion of the point of view.
If the
B-theory of time were true, and passage of time is simply an illusion, it is
quite unlike these familiar examples of illusions. It carries none of the
distinguishing marks that enable us to identify other illusions. First, it
seems impossible to eradicate passage from experience in a way that would
reveal its illusory character. Indeed, there is a healthy tradition in
experimental psychology that seeks to generate temporal dislocations in our
experience. Subjects hear sounds in each ear that are delivered slightly
dislocated in time. Yet they misperceive them as simultaneous. Subjects are led
to misperceive the exact timing of an event they see by hearing cleverly timed
audible clicks. These sorts of experiments are quite successful in leading to
dislocations of the order of milliseconds. That sort of dislocation is remote
from what one would expect if the entirety of passage is an illusion. With all
the tricks at their disposal, why can't an inventive researcher induce
dislocations of the order of a day or a year? But if the passage of time is an
objective fact independent of our neural circuitry, that failure is no
surprise. The greatest dislocation possible would only be the milliseconds of
time involved in the neural processing of the moments once they have been
delivered to our senses and are routed to consciousness. Secondly, what
about identifying the mechanism that restricts the delivery of moments to
consciousness into the rigid series we experience? In particular, what in the
neural machinery blocks us from having perceptions of tomorrow or next year?
While neuroscientists have made enormous advances in recent years, I do not
think that circuitry blocking this avenue of perception has been identified.
But if passage is an illusion of our perception, there must be some mechanism
that blocks us from perceiving the future. With all of that out of the way,
lets now get into some more detailed reasons of why B-Theory of time fails.
1.)
There
is no evidence which suggests space is eternal. To the contrary, all the
reputable scientific evidence strongly supports the same conclusion that space
had a true beginning a finite time ago. A point at which space itself came into
existence. (See section on the scientific evidences which disprove STE).
To deny this is to deny science and to deny the evidence. More than that, it
would be to deny logic. Science says that the Universe not only had a
finite beginning, but that it will also (sometime in the future) experience a
'death', die, and no longer exist. However, if the B-Theory of time were true
then the Universe wouldn't die in the future, it is already dead.
2.) B-theory of time is illogical and
self-refuting for a number of reasons. "Static Time”, or the B-Theory of
time, requires us to believe that our experience of change in the external
world (as well as within our own minds) is wholly illusory. Both tenets are
required to be believed if one wishes to hold to a B-Theory of
time. However, if our changing experiences are themselves illusions, then
we are experiencing a changing illusion, which is objective and leads to a
vicious infinite regress. For example, if the change you’re currently
experiencing is an illusion, then something's causing that illusion, and the
illusion before that, and the illusion before that, etc. Therefore, the static
theory of time is self-contradictory." Claiming B-Theory is true would
itself be illusory and would depend on prior illusions which are also dependent
on prior illusions, etc. So, if B-Theory of time were true, then past, present,
and future events are all equally real. This again means the passage of time is
simply an illusion. For example: My Grandfathers death did not come and go, it
just always existed. The passage of temporal becoming for every event therefore
is nothing more than an illusion. If each independent event is an illusion, and
space-time was eternal (without true beginning) then in fact there has been an
infinite regress of illusions. The issue then becomes, we can never arrive
at the current or present illusion in the chain. Why? Because even though all
events would exist (past, present, future) and be equally real, the events on
the chain must still be traversed/cycled through in order, as to arrive at the
next event (illusion) in the line. You are currently experiencing an illusion,
and that illusion was preceded by a different illusion, which was preceded by a
different illusion, infinitely in the past.
P1. An infinite regress of illusions cannot be correct
P2. B-Theory of time requires an infinite regress of Illusions
C. B-Theory of time cannot be correct
3.) The delivery of the (supposed illusory)
doses is perfect. There are no revealing dislocations of serial order of the
moments. While there may be minor dislocations, there are none of the type that
would definitely establish the illusory character of passage. We do not, for
example, suddenly have an experience of next year thrown in with our experience
of today; and then one of last year; and then another from the present. There
are some minor dislocations, but they’re not the sort that suggest passage is
illusory. They are the sort we would expect exactly if passage were objective,
but there were occasional malfunctions of our perception of it. Take, for
example, the odd experience we have under anesthesia of no time at all passing
between the administration of the drug and its wearing off. That is easily
explained in the passage view as a suspension of that part of our neural system
that detects the passing moments. Think of someone resting comfortably on a
sofa. The sofa presses uniformly over the body, Yet the pressures are
communicated to consciousness in a slow series that starts at the feet and
marches inexorably up the length of the body to the pillow behind the head; and
it is the same for every reclining body, without failure or serious
dislocation. The result is that the reclining body and all others like it
experience an illusory passage of pressure. If this sofa parable sounds
fantastic, then you should find equally fantastic the same idea of a B-Theory
of time. There is something odd in the idea that an element of our experience
that is so universal and so solid and immutable is just an illusion.
4.) As already mentioned above, why can’t we
identify the mechanism that restricts the delivery of moments to consciousness
into the rigid series we experience? In particular, what in the neural
machinery blocks us from having perceptions of tomorrow or next year? While
neuroscientists have made enormous advances in recent years, I do not think
that circuitry blocking this avenue of perception has been identified. But if
passage is an illusion of our perception, there must be some mechanism that
blocks us perceiving the future. We don’t see that and there is a reason that
we cannot find any such mechanism.
5.) In many well-known phenomena, the appearance
of violation of time-reversal symmetry indicates the existence of a profound
transition. The transition from the normal state into a superconducting state
in unconventional superconductors is one such example. The broken time-reversal
symmetry is an important clue on the transition point of such a phenomenon. If
this is an "illusion", someone has a lot of explaining to do." Radioactive decay doesn't care if we have a "mind" or
not. It will take the same amount of time no matter if we designate time as
fundamental or an illusion. Considering that at a single nuclear level, this is
a random process and yet as a conglomerate of nuclei, they all somehow
"know" the decay rate that they have to "obey", I'd say
that these nuclei know about "time" and respect it. Why not claim
that length and space are an illusion as well? Why stop with time?”
(http://physicsandphysicists.blogspot.com/2007/03/time-is-illusion.html)
In a universe that was essentially static, there would not have
been any dynamic reason why something like the stars suddenly turned on. Or
went from their non-lit state to their lit state. It has been realized that the
universe is in fact not static at all, but rather expanding. Galaxies are
moving steadily apart from each other. This means that in the past they were
closer together. One can plot the separation of two galaxies as a function of
time. As again, we have stated over and over again in this book time is defined
as a measure of events.
6.) Subjective sense
of flow: While the idea that there is some objective sense in which time is
flowing can be denied, the fact that conscious beings feel as though it is in
some sense flowing cannot. However, if the flow of time didn't have an objective
existence, then it is argued conscious beings would simultaneously experience
all moments in their lives. A response is that since the brain presumably
perceives time through information processing of external stimuli, not by
extrasensory perception, and obeys the laws of causality, it is hard to see how
the flow of time, whether it exists or not, could make any subjective
difference: all conscious beings are built to perceive time as a chain of
events, whether or not it occurs as such.
7.) Differences between past, present and
future: Many of our common-sense attitudes treat the past, present and
future differently.
A. We fear death because we believe that we
will no longer exist after we die. But if the B-Theory of time is correct,
death is just one of our temporal borders, and should be no more worrisome than
birth.
B. You are about to go to the dentist, or you
have already been. Common-sense says you should prefer to have been. But if
Eternalism (B-Theory) is correct, it shouldn't matter which situation you're
in.
C. When some unpleasant experience is
behind us, we feel glad that it is over. But if the B-Theory of time is
correct, there is no such property as being over or no longer happening now—it
continues to exist timelessly.
8.) Determinism and Indeterminism: People tend to
have very different attitudes towards the past and the future. This might be
explained by an underlying attitude that the future is not fixed, but
can be changed, and is therefore worth worrying about. An open, undetermined,
future is the only kind worth worrying about. In other words, a flow-of-time
theory with a strictly determined future (which nonetheless does not exist at
the present) would not satisfy common-sense intuitions about time. In his discussion with Albert Einstein, Karl
Popper argued against determinism: “The main topic of our conversation was
indeterminism. I tried to persuade him to give up his determinism, which
amounted to the view that the world was a four-dimensional Parmenidean block
universe in which change was a human illusion, or very nearly so. (He agreed
that this had been his view, and while discussing it I called him
"Parmenides.) I argued that if men, or other organisms, could experience change
and genuine succession in time, then this was real. It could not be explained
away by a theory of the successive rising into our consciousness of time slices
which in some sense coexist; for this kind of’ rising into consciousness’ would
have precisely the same character as that succession of changes which the
theory tries to explain away. I also brought in the somewhat obvious biological
arguments: that the evolution of life, and the way organisms behave, especially
higher animals, cannot really be understood on the basis of any theory which
interprets time as if it were something like another (anisotropic) space
coordinate. After all, we do not experience space coordinates. And this is
because they are simply nonexistent: we must beware of hypostatizing them; they
are constructions which are almost wholly arbitrary. Why should we then
experience the time coordinate—to be sure, the one appropriate to our inertial
system—not only as real but also as absolute, that is, as unalterable and
independent of anything we can do (except changing our state of motion)?
The reality of time
and change seemed to me the crux of realism. (I still so regard it, and it has
been so regarded by some idealistic opponents of realism, such as Schrödinger
and Gödel.)
When I visited
Einstein, Schilpp's Einstein volume in The Library of Living Philosophers had
just been published; this volume contained a now famous contribution of Gödel's
which employed, against the reality of time and change, arguments from
Einstein's two relativity theories. Einstein had come out in that volume
strongly in favor of realism. And he clearly disagreed with Gödel's idealism:
he suggested in his reply that Gödel's solutions of the cosmological equations
might have ‘to be excluded on physical grounds’.
Now I tried to present
to Einstein-Parmenides as strongly as I could my conviction that a clear stand
must be made against any idealistic view of time. And I also tried to show
that, though the idealistic view was compatible with both determinism and indeterminism,
a clear stand should be made in favor of an "open" universe—one in
which the future was in no sense contained in the past or the present, even
though they do impose severe restrictions on it. I argued that we should not be
swayed by our theories to give up realism (for which the strongest arguments
were based on common sense), though I think that he was ready to admit, as I
was, that we might be forced one day to give it up if very powerful arguments
(of Gödel's type, say) were to be brought against it. I therefore argued that
with regard to time, and also to indeterminism (that is, the incompleteness of
physics), the situation was precisely similar to the situation with regard to
realism. Appealing to his own way of expressing things in theological terms, I
said: if God had wanted to put everything into the world from the beginning, He
would have created a universe without change, without organisms and evolution,
and without man and man's experience of change.”(Karl Popper, Unended Quest: An
Intellectual Autobiography)
Here's a fun
conversation I had with a B-Theorist on this matter:
AK
- "If the future exists right now as we speak, and is just out there fixed
and set, that means nothing we do can affect it (the future) or change it. The
future would be a real tangible thing just as much as present events are."
B-Theorist - "That's correct. The future is just as real as the present
and the past. It is already existing right now."
AK - "So if you murder someone next month, technically it wasn't your
fault because the future already existed and was set."
B-Theorist - "Hmmm...I never thought of it that way."
AK - "I wouldn't worry too much about it...I'm sure the judge will allow
the accountability of your actions to be chalked up to the future already
existing...it's not your fault...it was the B-Theory time fault!!!
One
thing I always ask those who believe in determinism, such as B-theorists, 5
Point Calvinists, etc. is…If you believe the future is fixed, immutable, cannot
be changed, or altered in anyway, prove it by putting on a blindfold and
walking across the interstate. They never do it for some reason. This is very
odd, because for the predeterminist, nothing they do can alter or impact their
future. Let have a look at the following argument known as the ‘Blindfold
Argument’ that was written in 2024 by myself and Christopher Schatz’s.
P1: B-Theorists believe there is NOTHING they can do to
impact their future.
P2: If there is NOTHING they can do to impact their future,
then crossing the street with a blindfold on wouldn’t impact their future.
P3: If crossing the street with a blindfold on wouldn’t
impact their future, then they should be willing to do it.
C: B-Theorists should be willing to cross the street with a
blindfold on.
If they refuse to do it, simply ask this
question. How would crossing the street with a blindfold on negatively affect
you other than it might just be scary to do? Based on their beliefs it wouldn’t
and when they realize this they will be trapped and have no answer. Keep
challenging them to do it and to prove their illogical beliefs. 😊
Hypothetically let’s imagine in 50 years
you were going die from an alligator attack. If that were true, and set in
stone, then you could cross the street 1,000 times with a blindfold on and
still be perfectly fine. You wouldn’t be afraid or scared to do it at all.
Similarly, you wouldn’t be scared to go to war overseas if it was true you were
going to die falling off a train in Kentucky. Moreover, if you were able to
take a step back and look at the entire movie based on a B Theory of Time (how
you were born, and how you die) it would become apparent to you that you cannot
alter the outcome. If you die from a heart attack you will die from a heart
attack. If you die skydiving, you will die skydiving. If you die in your sleep,
you will die in your sleep. If it’s set in stone then it’s set in stone, which
means it’s fixed and cannot change regardless of what actions you take or don’t
take prior to your death. Think of the movie Titanic where Jack Dawson (Played
by Leonardo DiCaprio) dies from hypothermia in the Ocean. That movie has
already been written and released. Jack Dawsons fate (date time and manner in
which he died) is already sealed, set and fixed. Once his fate and the end of
the movie was written and set in stone, it wouldn’t matter what the writers
said he did leading up to his death. If the ending is fixed and cannot be
altered, then Jack Dawson could have played Russian Roulette with himself 10,000
times on the ship without consequence (Prior to them hitting the iceberg), and
it wouldn’t have had any effect on the outcome. Recap. If you are going to die from an
alligator attack, then crossing the street blindfolded wouldn’t matter because
you wouldn’t die. If you are going to get hit by a car when you cross
the street (and that’s set in stone), then there’s nothing you can do to
prevent it. You cannot avoid anything, nor can increase the probability of anything.
So just walk around aimlessly on the freeway and see what happens or doesn’t
happen. Also
as far as the Titanic scenario, I’d like to remind my readers, that not only
was Jack going to die how he died (no matter what), but if the future is set
and fixed, they were also going to hit the iceberg no matter what.
One atheist responded and said this
assumes that the person in the hypothetical had a decision to make at all. To
which we reply, exactly!! Free will doesn’t exist in the B-Theory of time. Any
decision you make cannot affect the outcome, because it’s not really a decision
at all if the future is fixed. If free will doesn’t exist then no decisions are
really your own. So again, you would have no grounds to deny walking across the
street with a blindfold on.
10.) Reference frames
are irrelevant for things that don't exist. Just like a photons reference frame
for planets that have not yet formed (in an early universe) is
irrelevant.
B-Theorist - "I
believe the past present and future are all equally real."
AK - "So you believe that planets existed at .0000001 nano seconds when
the Universe first began to exist."
B-Theorist - "No it took a while before planets
were able to form"
AK - "LOL"
11.) If the B-Theory
of time were true, and time is defined as a measurement of events, then the
passage of time is still occurring despite the insistence that it’s not. How
you might ask? Well, if B-Theory of time were true, we (as humans/conscious observers)
still are only able to see what we call the present. In other words, if the
future does exist already, and is real, we still are not able to see it. We are
only able to see what we call the present and not any of the future events that
are claimed to be fixed. But the present (what we can see/the illusion we
experience in the present) still changes in this B-Theory, and these changes
(events) can be measured. Thus the passage of time based on formal definitions
still exists and is real. There are genuine properties such as being two days
past of the current illusion, being the present illusion, being 30 seconds
before the illusion begins, etc.
12.) It’s a logical contradiction to be a B-Theorist and also
believe in science. Example:
Atheist - "I believe in the B-Theory of time & that space is eternal
in the past (without true beginning).
Same
Atheist – “I also love science and believe the Universe had a finite beginning
because of all the mountains of evidence which support it."
AK
– It can’t be both.
13.) If the B-Theorist suggests that the
universe came into being at some point in the past, and in that becoming also
created the entire timeline of all events in an instant: How would the temporal
becoming of 'one initial event' create every single future
event by its effect?? If every event (past, present, and future) are all
equally real at the same moment, then the very moment that the universe
first comes into existence so do you, me, your car, airplanes, cell phones,
bicycles, baseball hats, my shoes, the death of the universe, etc. This is why
the A-Theory of time is called the common-sense view, and B-theorists are
considered preposterous lunatics. Yet another reason to throw out B-Theory.
14.) How does The
Theory of Relativity play into this? According to the theory of special
relativity, there is no such thing as absolute simultaneity. But if there is no
such thing as absolute simultaneity, then there cannot be objective facts of
the form “t is present” or “t is 12 seconds past.” Thus, according to this line
of reasoning, there cannot be objective facts about time, and so the passage of
time cannot be an objective feature of the world. It can be plausibly argued
that while relativity shows that it is physically impossible to observe whether
two events are absolutely simultaneous, or that a single event occurs
simultaneously for two different observers, the theory nevertheless has no
bearing on whether there is such a phenomenon as absolute simultaneity. Events
happen, and every single event that ever happened could be observed from
numerous locations. This may appear to make an event happen at different
‘times’, depending on your reference frame. For example: Event X may appear to
happen earlier for person Y than for person Z depending on his/her location. This,
however, is not evidence that every single event (past, present, future) are
equally real or all exist at the same moment. Furthermore, it is not evidence
that every event does not actually have a ‘true temporal becoming’ which exists
independently of anyone’s reference frame. There is no evidence which suggests
every event does not have a true beginning or true present which is independent
of any reference point. All we know is that being in a different location can
give the illusion that a particular event is occurring earlier or later, but
that is consistent with our perception and the way our eyes, ears, brain, and
sensory input work.
15.) How and Why: These are important questions to ask an
opponent who is attempting to suggest the B-Theory of time could be possible.
First of all, if the Universe never began to exist and was eternal in the past,
then how did every single event, and every single cause and effect exist in
this framework? What mechanism laid out all these events infinitely in the
past? For example: It might be true that you are going to die from a gunshot
wound in 40 years, and that truth has existed eternally in the past, but
according to who and what mechanism set this? And when was this moment, as
there was no singular moment for them all to (begin) existing if the universe
was eternal. If all events (past, present, and future) never “began” to exist
but just always were, then again, by what mechanism did this occur? How was
every single cause and effect existing eternally and perfectly (without
dislocation)? Meaning without error, as there are no effects which fail to
follow their cause. No one ever had their head put in a guillotine and their
foot fall off instead of their head. This perfection suggests there would need
to be some kind of intelligent mind behind it. Without a law giver, there can
be no laws. Without a programmer there can be no program. But for some reason,
even with the B-Theory of time, everything abides by certain laws which cannot
be undermined. Now if the B-Theorist suggests that the Universe “began to
exist” at some point (and is not eternal in the past), ask them what
non-personal (mindless cause) created everything, (life, laws, limits, the
universe, every single cause and effect, etc.). Also how did this occur? As a
mindless cause would have no rationale, volition, thinking capabilities,
ability to withhold intention, ability to effectively create laws, etc. And
lastly the WHY. Why would any of this exist at all instead of pure nothingness.
What is the purpose or reason behind it? Why would there be something rather
than nothing? Under the B-Theory of time, why is there even a universe? To say
there is a place in which every single cause and effect exists perfectly &
eternally in the past without any cause, reason, or any logically explanatory
origin, is absurd.
16.) Under the B-Theory of time where did the
laws of logic originate? The laws of logic cannot exist without an intelligent
mind who produced them. These laws are objectively true and binding. They also
exist independently of the human mind, belief, opinion, culture, etc. They are
not relative, cannot change, and cannot evolve. For example, the statement ‘God
cannot exist and not exist at the same time’ is objectively true, even if no
human beings were on planet Earth. These laws can never change. Therefore, we
can determine that human beings did not create the laws of logic, rather we
just discovered them. The laws of logic exist as part of Gods essential nature
and He cannot be violate or undermined them. Again, because they exist as part
of his necessary being. He didn’t wake up one day and decide to create them.
Rather, they have always existed as part of who he is. Without an intelligent
mind, how could the laws of logic exist or have come into being? They
couldn’t!! And under the B-Theory of time there is no adequate explanation for
their origin.
17.) If the future is real, fixed, and is out
there currently existing just as real as our present, then free will does not
actually exist, and nothing you did in your entire life was a choice. You are
just doing what had already been eternally written, set, and fixed. The
debate between A-theorists and B-theorists is a continuation of a metaphysical
dispute reaching back to the ancient Greek philosophers Heraclitus and
Parmenides. Parmenides thought that reality is timeless and unchanging.
Heraclitus, in contrast, believed that the world is a process of ceaseless
change, flux and decay. Reality for Heraclitus is dynamic and ephemeral. Indeed
the world is so fleeting, according to Heraclitus, that it is impossible to
step twice into the same river.
More:
The B-theory of time is also burdened with more heavy philosophical problems.
On the B-theory, temporal becoming is an entirely subjective phenomenon, and
hence not an objective feature of reality. In the absence of minds, every
temporal moment and event simply exists tenselessly; there are no tensed facts;
no past, present, or future; nothing comes into existence or happens except in
the tenseless sense of existing at certain appointed stations as opposed to
others. If the mental phenomenon of temporal becoming is an objective feature
of reality, this amounts to a denial of the B-theory of time. If the B-theorist
bites the bullet, stating that there is no temporal becoming of mental states,
then this flies in the face of experience. Sir Arthur Eddington states,
"We have direct insight into 'becoming' which sweeps aside all symbolic
knowledge as on an inferior plane. If I grasp the notion of existence because I
myself exist, I grasp the notion of becoming because I myself become. It is the
innermost Ego of all that is and becomes." Philosopher Dr. William Lane
Craig explains that the B-Theory suffers the same incoherence as all theories
that time is illusory, namely, that an illusion or appearance of becoming
involves becoming, so that becoming cannot be mere illusion or appearance. The
Buddhist can consistently deny the reality of the physical world, since the
illusion of physicality does not entail physicality, but this is not the case
with temporal becoming. John Laird writes: "Take the supposed illusion of
change. This must mean that something, X, appears to change when in fact it
does not change at all. That may be true about X; but how could the illusion
occur unless there were change somewhere? If there is no change in X, there
must be a change in the deluded mind that contemplates X. The illusion of
change is actually a changing illusion. Thus, the illusion of change implies
the reality of some change. Change, therefore, is invincible in its
stubbornness; for no one can deny the appearance of change." We should
stop protecting our vanity and admit what is now becoming obvious. We have no good
grounds for dismissing the passage of time as an illusion. It has none of the
marks of an illusion. Rather, it has all the marks of an objective process
whose existence is independent of the existence of we humans. Passage exhibits
no sign of being an illusion.
Time
passes. Nothing fancy is meant by that. It is just the mundane fact known to us
all that future events will become present and then drift off into the past.
Today's eagerly anticipated lunch comes to be and satiates our hunger and then
leaves a pleasant memory. The passage of time is the presentation to our
consciousness of the successive moments of the world. Time really passes.
It is not something we imagine. It really happens; or, as I shall argue below,
our best evidence is that it does. Our sense of passage is our largely passive
experience of a fact about the way time truly is, physically. The fact of
passage obtains independently of us. This passage of time is one of our most
powerful experiences. What is not in that experience is the idea of a present
moment, the "now," that has any significant extension in space. The
"now" we experience is purely local in space. It is limited to that
tiny part of the world that is immediately sensed by us. There is a common
presumption of a present moment that extends from here to the moon and on to
the stars. That there is such a thing is a natural supposition, but it is
speculation. The more we learn of the physics of space and time, the less
credible it becomes. For present purposes, the essential point is that the
local passage of time is quite distinct from the notion of a spatially extended
now. The former figures prominently in our experience; the latter figures
prominently in groundless speculation.
(John
D. Norton- Department of History and Philosophy of Science University of
Pittsburgh)
(https://sites.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/Goodies/passage/index.html)
(https://sites.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/papers/Time_passes.pdf)
(https://reasonandscience.catsboard.com/t2503-a-theory-and-b-theory-of-time)
"The
Eternal Block Universe Theory and B-Theory of time give a deeply inadequate
view of time. It fails to account for the passage of time, the pre-eminence of
the present, the directedness of time and the difference between the future and
the past.” – Philosopher John Lucas
Lastly, we need to remember that the B-Theory of time is
nothing more than STE or SCPN depending on how your opponent wishes to break it
down. Therefore, it does NOT defeat the argument in any way, nor does it offer
a coherent refutation or prove a false dichotomy. Because of all these
aforementioned issues, we see the B-Theory of time fails miserably as an
attempted rebuttal of T.E.A.
[[For
another able defense of the reality of the passage of time,
see (Tim Maudlin, "On the Passage of Time" Ch. 4 in The Metaphysics
within Physics. Oxford University Press, 2007.)]]
'B-Theory of time is dead, and anyone attempting to subscribe to it is committing intellectual suicide. God Bless' - AK
Don't get me wrong, I don't subscribe to B theory, it has too many contradictions. But I want to take up the point of free will. It's quite logical and possible (regardless of your perspective or opinion of time) that free will could be an illusion. An interesting thought, but undoubtedly impossible to prove either way. Personally I look upon free will as a real thing. I don't commit murder because I choose not to. But that doesn't mean the free will I feel isn't really an illusion. Our brains after all are just biological computers. Even consciousness could be an illusion, couldn't it?
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